Chrono Trigger is an incredible classic RPG originally released in 1995 that draws many similarities to games in the Dragon Quest and . But these few facts are the only hard details known of the fall; even the fates of Crono and Marle are shrouded in mystery. Through Masato Kato, we also know that Crono and Marle might have been in some kind of incident during the fall, and that Porre probably had help from "outside the original flow of history." Britains mortgage market has contracted for a fifth month in a row, official figures show, as the jump in interest rates that followed Liz Trusss September 2022 mini-budget continued to trigger a collapse in demand for new home loans. You should start it up again. Following the malfunction of a teleportation device in 1000 AD at a fair hosted in the Kingdom of Guardia, a young girl named Marle finds herself thrown into the past - 400 years back. We can interpret this to signify that temporal attacks were used against Crono and Marle, akin to Lavos's distortions or the Entity's Gates. What actually happened at the Fall of Guardia? The raging fire in Truce may have been caused by traditional fire weapons (e.g. Nonetheless, fifteen years is ample time to switch weapons in the military, meaning swords still might have been used in 1005 A.D. Ive actually been trying to find a way (outside of PSP) to play CC to follow up on exactly this question. All rights reserved. A little on-the-nose since I'm not sure how Dalton would be aware of Porre at this point, but it's a quick "in-between" addition made to CTDS that explains how and why all that took place in one quick bit. The cutscenes that are missing are Finding Robo and The Fall of Guardia. Copyright 1995-2023 Newgrounds, Inc. All rights reserved. Always attack them first and destroy. He shows up in the expanded content in the iOS version and says hes going to raise up a great army in Porre. In the aftermath of these events, the Masamune was taken away by an unknown party. Support Newgrounds and get tons of perks for just $2.99! It was one of my most successful movies of all time. This story is pretty much fleshed out in the fan made Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes game. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The Fall of Guardia is an offscreen event that occurs between the events of Chrono Trigger and those of Chrono Cross. One of them is Guardian (with Pods). In Chrono Trigger, Melchior is one of the three Gurus of Zeal in the Antiquity. Porre's new standing as a military power was confirmed in Chrono Cross, along with the downfall of Guardia, as mentioned in passing by Radius. It's also important to note that Crono and the others would have dealt with Dalton several times in the past, and may have considered him less of a threat than he really might have been. Thanks for the review! And yes, as goofy as Dalton is, he's legitimately one of the most powerful people in CT. Former second-in-command of Zeal at the height of its power, briefly the King of Zeal after the Undersea Palace incident, and one of the most powerful Zealians - which is all a big deal, considering Zeal was the pinnacle of magical evolution and technology in the CT universe. Using Fire Whirl or Flamethrower is useless due to the Guardian's immunity to Fire. The two regents, reluctant to fight and kill their own citizens, decided to flee when the invasion was staged. This fact verifiably anchors the two in or around Guardia as permanent fixtures of the kingdom. The cutscenes that are missing are Finding Robo and The Fall of Guardia. Yeah I made Crono silent because I wanted to stay true to the game since he never spoke in the original. Do you have the intro cutscene if you wait at the main menu? Magus would have no motivation to effect the Fall of Guardia, which disproves his involvement. Porre is shown to be completely oriented to using ranged firepower in Chrono Cross. there easy to skip if your spamming your buttons alot on controllers. After the Guardian counts down to 0 from 5, the Bits will reanimate. Do they need to be enabled or something? So when I was in 600ad and Marle went bye-bye, no cutscene happened, and I'm pretty sure there's one there isn't there? From Chrono Wiki, a database for the Chrono series that anyone can edit, https://www.chronowiki.org/w/index.php?title=Fall_of_Guardia&oldid=38203. In the PlayStation release of the game, an end-game cutscene depicted soldiers dueling with swords in Guardia Castle, flame and destruction in the city of Truce, and an unknown presence pulling the abandoned Masamune from the ground in what is believed to be the "Fall of Guardia". However, the fall in January was smaller than in the previous four months, suggesting some confidence was returning to the mortgage market, though at a much lower level than last summer. Robos cutscene and the Fall of Guardia have been missing since launch even after five patches. Dalton entered the present age and raised a modernized army. It is possible, however, that the mysterious man who killed the last defender of Guardia was the doer of this deed. Finding themselves back in their own time, Marle (or rather, Princess Nadia) encounters the Chancellor, who sheds some light on the circumstances regarding her mother's death, sending the princess into a furyCredits -Music by Yasunori Mitsuda and Nobuo UematsuOrchestral Versions by Malcolm Robinson (https://www.youtube.com/user/MalcolmRobinsonMusic) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZr0wag1pyA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWUn0NA5BKM)Marle: Chi-Chi (https://www.youtube.com/user/chisanaAi)King Guardia: Wallium (https://www.youtube.com/user/GentlemanWalrus) Chancellor: Alex Rybitski (https://bit.ly/AlexRybitski)Art by Kylie-Ann (https://www.youtube.com/user/DreamsVeon/)Mix by Marc GardnerMix: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J_0qT_p4dBGyKb1ALDdZcBlpVo8q3vwv/view?usp=sharingLyrics by Alex Beckham (https://www.youtube.com/c/alexandervonkoopa)Footage by Suraht (https://www.youtube.com/user/Suraht)Outro Music: Memories of Green Orchestral by Fenix Ark Angelus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61R3ePzml_g)Art (Without Music) can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3p5r2o8yjgwqdh1/AAAXPoWBoXqfTY9A46QB9lHEa?dl=0 The presence of raging fires in Truce at the Fall of Guardia cutscene may suggest the use of artillery or other modern incendiary devices. Since Lucca speaks of Kid's mannerisms, it had to be written after the Fall of Guardia (Kid would only have been one year old otherwise). Also, i'd like to se Crono stronger on the sequel, he got defeated twice in a row without putting up much of a fight. In the version of the Dimensional Vortex that appears in the Present, Once-King Dalton states that he intends to raise an army in Porre to wipe Guardia off the map. Found in the Arris Dome when Crono, Lucca, and Marle flee to the Future prior to Crono's incarceration, the Guardian protects the food storage area beneath the Arris Dome. The ancestry of Guardia most likely traces its origin from the Kingdom of Zeal of the Antiquity era. How could Crono, Marle, and presumably Lucca, powerful warriors and users of magic, be defeated by the Porre army? The cutscene that ended the Playstation version of Chrono Trigger with their marriage was immediately followed by a scene depicting the destruction of the Kingdom of Guardia, set against the burning of Truce, the capture of the Masamune, and the slaying of the kingdom's final defender. It seems like you did this years ago. Powerful beings in other stories are similarly susceptible to lucky strikes. Also included is a trailer to FFVI: The Day After - Part 15, coming this year. The proportion of consumer borrowing on credit cards has remained high ever since, which most analysts blame on the cost of living crisis. so are there any animated cutscenes still missing in this version or are all of them included? I thought there were cutscenes in this, I haven't seen any and I'm at the part where you go to the future. (Song releases will be out of order. Aside from a simple soldier, who else might he be? Join the fight at the Arena for the AgesParticipate in ForumsHelp with the StubsCrimson Echoes Namespace. It took place 20 years after the events in CT but really had nothing to do with the original game. If not, what happened to him, he was a great villain to despise. If your sure there is a cutscene at one point..save before it happens, and don't spam your buttons on your controllers when it is about to happen. Considering that in most governmental overthrows the former regents are hunted down and killed (compare to the overthrow of the tsars of Russia), Porre probably would have avidly sought them out if they fled. Three things suggest that Guardia was able to rebound from this fall in 1005 A.D. Firstly, Radius speaks of Guardia as if it were still a sovereign nation. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Copyright 2015 The Chrono Compendium only in cross/DS trigger, i.e. Clicking on the rat "statue" outside the food storage area allows the player to read a memo attached to it, which warns them of the fight against the Guardian. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. IF it does not show up after that, then you have a bug. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Given that Masato Kato states they probably were involved in some kind of incident, and that the lone defender of Guardia is shown being killed in the cutscene, it is logical to conclude that Crono and Marle were killed. rats eating the "corpse" of a rotting machine. From Chrono Wiki, a database for the Chrono series that anyone can edit, https://www.chronowiki.org/w/index.php?title=Guardian&oldid=44370. If your sure there is a cutscene at one point..save before it happens, and don't spam your buttons on your controllers when it is about to happen. However, this theory does not jive with the ranged weapons of Crono and Marle -- their magic. Definitely a bug. Naptha). 109. Thanks for the review! One example is the Jedi from Star Wars, who, though possessing powers well beyond normal sentients, can be killed by normal means if unlucky or caught off-guard. Furthermore, the Present day of the game is 1005 AD, the very year Guardia is fated to fall to Porre. The Story is great and i have played both versions for the nintendo consoles. What a gorgeous, evocative track that made the most of its tech. The one thing that might save this theory is Kato's statement about a force "outside the normal flow of time." Im not sure how easy it is to find the ROM these days. I just saw a little plot hole: If Magus died, Frog should revert to his human form (but maybe this is part of your story). This man may be a time traveler. After I finish the last episode of my "Day After" series I might continue this one. Valve Corporation. CHRONO TRIGGER. Warning: Spoilers to follow.. All of this is built up during the game by beginning during a period of tension between Guardia and Porre, and explores how it could happen by also showing the Founding of Guardia, presenting it as a conquest of the other human settlements by the first king of Guardia, driven mad by the influence of Lavos via the. This page was last edited on 26 March 2012, at 20:58. #1. Looking online, seems like other people have issues with "some" scenes not playing, but I haven't seen anyone talking about seeing none. Lucca, the inventor of . Guardian is a boss in Chrono Trigger. None content was cut from it? I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas and a happy new year! He is known as the "Guru of Life". Marle's Water attacks and Crono's Lightning could easily be used to attack enemies outside of personal combat range, and Luminaire could probably wipe out large portions of the army at once. Contents 1 Chrono Trigger 2 Chrono Cross 3 Chrono Trigger (DS) 4 Trivia Chrono Trigger In the year 1005 A.D. a country attacked Guardia and was able to bring it down. Here is part 1 of my new series entitled "Chrono Trigger: The Fall of Guardia". The Fall of Guardia is an event in Chrono Trigger, occurring in the year 1005 A.D. And to answer your question. Contents 1 Inquiry 2 Theories 2.1 Dalton 2.2 Time Traveler 3 Misconception Inquiry In the cut scene depicting the Fall of Guardia, a long-haired man is shown killing the last defender of Guardia and stealing the Masamune. The man is not Magus. Britain's mortgage market has contracted for a fifth month in a row, official figures show, as the jump in interest rates that followed Liz Truss's September 2022 mini-budget continued to . However, it is obviously apparent from other frames that he is not wielding a scythe. So as you can tell by the playstation ending, this series will have a really sad ending. Nonetheless, apart from the Gurus, Crono and Marle displayed power exceeding Queen Zeal, who was probably (apart from Magus or any historical figures in that civilization) the strongest magic user of normal history until the time of her death. The player must defeat it to bring food to the hungry people in the levels above. Share and discover cool Chrono Trigger stuff! One frame of the cutscene shows blood shooting out from the fallen defender. People can't see them on Steam Link either because of that. I loved this chrono short! December 20th, 2004 Update: Holy shit, first Daily Feature and now front page?! He gets out of the Dimensional Vortex into 1000AD and does exactly what he says, which accounts for the fall of Guardia cutscene in the CT remakes and why Porre is an advanced superpower in CC who razed Guardia to control the Zenan mainland. Porre didn't just randomly decide to become an organized and militaristic nation and conquer Guardia out of the blue - a powerful, ambitious, and vengeful Zealian took over and directed them. When Cross came out, I dont even think the game designers mentioned Dalton at all, so if anything they were only throwing ideas about what role Dalton could fill as a central figure. In the playstation version there is an ending showing the fall of Guardia in the year 1005 A.D. but they never explain who did it or how it happened. Although, if the Bank of England succeeds in taking some heat out of the market, we may see borrowing levels fall in real terms., Get set for the working day we'll point you to all the business news and analysis you need every morning. Perhaps the forces of Porre were able to turn the citizens of Truce against Crono and Marle. Samuel Tombs, the chief UK economist at the consultancy Pantheon Macroeconomics, said the figures confirmed that buyers were waiting for a large correction in house prices, and a larger fall in mortgage rates, before re-entering the market. Heal periodically using Aura with Marle, or the dual tech Aura Whirl in desperate situations. It takes place right after the events of Chrono Trigger. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews . is the primary human kingdom in the world of Chrono Trigger. It was an awesome game in its own right but as a sequel it was somewhat of a disappointment. Do you think that Square Enix will make a sequl for Chron Trigger to tell what happens to everyone after they defeated Lavos and returned to there own times? Found in the Arris Dome when Crono, Lucca, and Marle flee to the Future prior to Crono's incarceration, the Guardian protects the food storage area beneath the Arris Dome. The original Chrono Trigger ended on a bright optimistic note. This theory assumes Crono and Marle die in battle. Attacking the Guardian while the Bits remain active causes them to counter with a strong tech. Robo's introduction and the Fall of Guardia. Copyright 2015 The Chrono Compendium When the Mammon Machine was activated, it began absorbing too much power. The best looking emulated Chrono Trigger or any cartridge game I think I've seen is on the SNES Classic, using Hakchi to enable bilinear filtering while disabling scanlines. One simple possibility is that the children used photographs. You should definateley continue this story. Yes. The Fall of Guardia is an event in Chrono Trigger, occurring in the year 1005 A.D. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Also, in another Masato Kato influenced game (Xenogears), the protagonist was shot by a revolver point blank and was only stunned. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Squaresoft being Squaresoft could not let that stand. Anyway I'm glad you liked it! An anti-monarcy rebellion might have occurred in support of Porre's more modern and liberal state. Consumer borrowing plummeted in 2020 during the first and second lockdowns before recovering in 2021, though with a much higher reliance on credit card borrowing than in the decade before the pandemic. But like I said to the previous review, I wanna finish my "Day After" series first. When I booted up Cross for the first time, having only played Trigger a long time ago, and realized this was the Trigger theme rearranged, I had a bit of a momentand that's a dramatic understatement. Fans of the Chrono Trigger franchise will love these spoofs and tributes! Only time and a new Chrono game will conclusively tell if they are alive. Youre referring to the final anime cutscene and brief interaction in the extra dungeon from the DS CT version I presume. This established him as a member of the royal family, and perhaps next in line to become king. Approvals at lowest since 2009 bar during Covid lockdown as demand for new homes continues to fall. If not, what happened to him, he was a great villain to despise. Anyway, great job, i'll be waiting for part 2. The correct answer is that it was canonically hinted at. I also have a question. Press J to jump to the feed. This suggests that Guardia did make a comeback, and that perhaps Crono and Marle are still alive and restoring the kingdom to its former glory. Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. It won Daily Feature, was put in the Chrono Trigger collections page, and made the front page. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eItjXmxd00. Subsequent to Lavos' death at the hands of time-travelers, the Kingdom of Guardia was invaded by the Porrean military. 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